Comment by bArray

Comment by bArray 8 days ago

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I just now checked out my theory of switching to a keto diet - this appears to be terrible advice.

There appears to be some initial idea of using keto to control cancer [1]. My working theory is that cancer is a high-replication cell, and the ketogenic diet is anti-growth, increasing the probability of it outgrowing the resources available. It appears possible to starve them of glucose [2].

In reality, it appears the keto diet may encourage metastatis, by promoting BACH1 [3]. You may end up with weaker cancer spread around the body. It's extremely unclear if this is a better situation or not.

[1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6375425/

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08999...

[3] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11152127/

markjohnson9 8 days ago

Thank you for this. I don't have your background but I have GBM and research it and yes agree there is a total bypass in your system for keto. Your body finds a way to get what it needs. Keto might buy some time before that takes effect but it is not a solution.

  • y0ink 8 days ago

    If you went the keto route, you may want to explore BACH1 inhibition. Study [3] acknowledges the effective role of keto in reducing or controlling tumor size, but with an associated increase in BACH1 expression appearing to account for the increased metastasis (in mice).

    Apparently there are a couple small molecule inhibitors that inhibit BACH1 (see ChatGPT). Unfortunately, they seem to be still in the experimental or early clinical stages.

  • bArray 8 days ago

    I'm not in the medical profession, I'm just a humble internet user. It's entirely possible you know more than me - I'm happy to hear other ideas.

    > Keto might buy some time before that takes effect but it is not a solution.

    It might still be a solution. The cancer may be spread out and easier for the body to effectively tackle. Also note that it may depend on type or location.

    One thing that does seem clear is that if you do go the keto route, you would need to stick at it. If you purposefully break it down, it spreads, then you give it back the fuel, it would probably make the situation far worse by growing rapidly in multiple locations.

    • markjohnson9 2 days ago

      You would definitely need to stick with keto. I have actually heard a lot of good, small testimonials. Some of them are from science journals and just lack the patient size. However, I don't think it would really buy me survival just a little more time at best. My conclusion is it could be worth pursuing but with my limited time I am just not willing to make the sacrifice. Not without having a better sense that it would cure me. For that reason I will pursue some other alternate strategies such as the spinning magnets.

      Thank you for your help.