Comment by joe_the_user

Comment by joe_the_user 4 days ago

Even more, each earlier explosion of AI optimism involved tech that barely panned-out at all. For investors, something that's yielded things of significant utility, is yielding more and promises the potential of far more if X or Y hurdle is cleared, is a pretty appealing thing.

I respect Marcus' analysis of the technology. But a lot of AI commentators have become habituated to shouting "AI winter" every time the tech doesn't live up to promises. Now that some substance is clearly present in AI, I can't imagine people stop trying to get a further payoff for the foreseeable future.

cratermoon 4 days ago

> For investors, something that's yielded things of significant utility

what exactly have investors gotten in return for their investment?

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PopePompus 4 days ago

A product which will significantly improve the productivity of programmers, if nothing else. That may not be a good return on investment, but I think it is undeniable that recent AI advances have nonzero value for coding.

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- thefz 4 days ago
  
  Those who think AI will make them better peogrammers make me think about the kind of day to day job they have. If a prompt is going to solve your problem, are you anything more than an entry level programmer? AI will not think for you and it's clear it is garbage against complexity.
  
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  9dev 4 days ago
  
  You’re looking at it upside down: AI is freeing you from the onerous work of writing actual code, and gives you more time to think. It’s a tool to spare you from the boring parts, the CRUD and the glue code and the correct library invocations. Programming is mostly about solving complex problems, yes, but it also involves writing tons of instructions to get the computer to go beep. With Copilot et al, you can simply spend your time on thinking instead of writing instructions.
  I personally think AI is just going to become a tool that will increase the table stakes by making those using it more productive.
  
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- la64710 4 days ago
  
  Then who cares ? If AI gets to do all the cool things and I am left to wash dishes and do my laundry. F** AI.
  
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  jitl 4 days ago
  
  Right now the programming AI that’s cheap enough for me to use is really good at fixing unbalanced parenthesis and indenting my code correctly. It more or less reduces my VIM motions by 80%. I am still doing something cool, and also still doing my laundry. Just the doing cool things part is a bit easier and less tedious. I think it makes me a fair bit more productive without robbing me of any agency.
  
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