Comment by _HMCB_

Comment by _HMCB_ 8 days ago

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I’ve been following them for over 20 years. Mozilla’s problem is idealism. One project to the next. At the end day, you have to pay your bills.

Alupis 8 days ago

They seemingly spent the last 20 years actively figuring out ways not to make money. It's a terrible shame. They coast on the memories of yesteryear - a shell of their former selves.

  • naasking 8 days ago

    They did create some things of lasting value though, like Rust.

    • lolinder 8 days ago

      And then proceeded to lay off the Rust team and force it out on its own. That probably worked out for the best in the end, but they don't get to claim credit for Rust's subsequent successes.

      • naasking 8 days ago

        They absolutely can. The funded and drove all of the research and development that led to Rust, which would not have been created otherwise.

      • asadotzler 8 days ago

        Bullshit. They made it. There is no Rust success without Mozilla, none. They can claim 100% credit for all of its successes, legitimately.

        • lolinder 8 days ago

          Just like you can claim 100% credit for all of your child's successes if you boot them out of the house without support as soon as they come of age?

    • Alupis 7 days ago

      Another missed opportunity in my opinion.

      Why do I use a Microsoft product to develop in Rust? Mozilla could have built the best-in-class Rust developer experience, a la Jetbrains.

      Just another mismanaged, incoherent side quest.

      • naasking 7 days ago

        Development environments are a time and money sink, a total distraction from Mozilla's actual goals.

        • Alupis 7 days ago

          Perhaps - but Jetbrains pulled in over $400MM USD in revenue in 2021[1]. Jetbrains now even offers a Rust IDE.

          Besides - what were Mozilla's actual goals? Find ways to not make money?

          People would throw money at a competent, coherent, privacy-centric, non-Microsoft collaborative office suite. Mozilla had Thunderbird, messaging apps, file sharing apps, etc - and somehow never got organized enough to form a single coherent strategy that would make money. Instead they were all one-off half-baked products that were DOA.

          It's dumbfounding. GSuite did so well because it's not Microsoft. Today we have many offerings, from Zimbra to Zoho and more - just imagine what someone with Mozilla's reputation and morals could have done for SMB's in this space, before anyone else moved?

          [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JetBrains

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