Comment by kurthr

Comment by kurthr 10 months ago

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Ok, so this is the final commercial design. It's inside the window. You can see the electrodes on the small glass sheet (100cm x 25cm?). There are 8 coax connections to 8 patch antennas. They don't cover the entire window and since I can see them they aren't very transparent (that's pretty normal for off angle low resistance ITO since you can't easily match the index shifts with AR films). The antennas aren't very big (why would they be for GHz+ frequencies) and they still have to go through the windows.

I don't know that a white box on the inside of the same window (which covered the wired coax connections) would be that much more conspicuous, especially from the outside. Maybe they require special exterior windows, but those don't seem to be part of the very visible "transparent" antennas. If you lowered the drop ceiling anything would be less conspicuous on the inside.

avianlyric 10 months ago

> If you lowered the drop ceiling anything would be less conspicuous on the inside.

The product is for fitting into existing buildings, with minimal impact. Being inconspicuous is a secondary concern, it only needs to be inconspicuous enough to not be obvious. Drop the ceiling on an entire floor to hide would not be low impact.

As to a plastic white box, sure you could do that. But it would be a plastic box that contains some kind of antenna on a rigid substrate. At which point you might as well just use glass as the substrate, and get rid of the extra enclosure, and manufacturing fiddlyness involved in assembly.

The cost of a glass antenna vs one housed in a plastic box is going to be negligible compared to overall cost of the installed equipment. At that point you might as well just use glass, simplify the construction and install process, and get a product that’s less visually distracting as a bonus.

  • kurthr 10 months ago

    PCBs and antennas in general are cheaper than glass. I think that's why this is considered special. Also note that they can do UWB and all sorts of other things. It's not like these glass antennas are using a substrate that already exists, they're just mounting something with exposed wires to a semitransparent 1ft/3ft piece of expensive specialty glass. Any change they have to do to the low e windows, they have to do for both.

    The idea that a plastic enclosure is difficult, expensive, or fiddly, is kinda hilarious. Maybe you'd like your monitor or laptop or microwave oven to have it's fiddly enclose removed, but I don't think it's wise.