Comment by danpalmer

Comment by danpalmer 10 months ago

7 replies

Yeah I’m so torn. It’s honestly the best browser UX I’ve seen, the right combination of vertical tabs, auto archiving, spaces/collections, sync, etc. I don’t care for Easels, but the core is good.

Except… the growth hacks have started to creep in. They overlay an advert for their own AI services on top of regular Google search results pages in their mobile app. Not even a browser chrome UI element, it’s literally over the page content. That feels like a huge violation of what it means to be a browser.

I don’t want their AI features. I don’t want growth hacks. I don’t want to sign in except for sync. I’d happily pay $40 a year for Arc as a product-focused-product, but as a VC-focused-product it’s heading downhill.

jwells89 10 months ago

It does get a lot right and feels smooth in ways that Chrome, the various Chrome-clones, and Firefox just don't. It's also ironically the only browser even trying to feel native on Windows, using WinUI/WinAppSDK for its UI there, despite originally being Mac only.

It's unfortunate that other cross platform browsers have such a strong tendency to phone in these little things, because they really do add up to make for a nicer experience.

mthoms 10 months ago

I'm torn for the same reason: The UX hits all the right notes for me and I've tried every MacOS browser under the sun. I'm an ADHD sufferer and there's something about their combination of features and UI that just lets me get stuff done. And I don't even touch their AI features.

This is all really sad news.

HungSu 10 months ago

You might like Zen Browser https://zen-browser.app/

  • danpalmer 10 months ago

    Thanks for the recommendation. I just had a quick try, it's nice, seems like a very polished Firefox. It seems to have a bunch of features I don't want in a browser so not sure if they'll get in the way.

rawsta 10 months ago

Have you tried Vivaldi? It's really customizable and has a lot of features.

  • danpalmer 10 months ago

    Vivaldi feels like a cross platform port in all the ways I try to avoid. I understand the feature set is good, but it doesn't feel nice to use. Hard to state exactly why though.