Comment by Borgz

Comment by Borgz 10 months ago

21 replies

According to this article, Arc requires an account and sends Google's Firebase the hostname of every page you visit along with your user ID. Does this make Arc the least private web browser currently being used?

causal 10 months ago

I trashed Arc immediately after install when I found out having an account was mandatory. That seemed so silly, like toothbrushes-requiring-wifi absurd. How much moreso now.

  • scblock 10 months ago

    Truly. I was looking for a privacy respecting Chromium-based browser to use for Web MiniDisc (https://web.minidisc.wiki/) and came across some enthusiastic praise for Arc. I downloaded it and it immediately wanted me to create an account to even use it. How can that possibly respect my privacy? It went right in the trash.

    • timeon 10 months ago

      What is also strange that I only found out about account after download. Like it was standard thing for the browser. (Sure there are optional accounts in others but login-walled browser?)

  • macintux 10 months ago

    I had the same response when I downloaded Dart and discovered that a programming language thought it was acceptable to send telemetry.

    • rixed 10 months ago

      In 2024 it is considered normal for an _operating_system_ to require an account, an information that is potentially passed around to any app running on it.

  • pndy 10 months ago

    I had doubts already when submissions promoting the browser were added on hn while there was no way to see how it looks like or even test it out - for quite some time there was nothing but mail singup on their page.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35801529

  • DevX101 10 months ago

    I did the same. Requiring an account for a browser is immediately disqualifying. I don't care how many features it has.

mrweasel 10 months ago

I'm also left wondering: How broken would Arc be, if Firebase was to go down?

  • diggan 10 months ago

    I guess it's relatively easy to test, add the Firebase domain to your host file and point it to 127.0.0.1 and try to use the browser.

    Sometimes things like this handle connection failures better than "never-ending connection attempts", so you might want to try to add a throttle or something too for the traffic between the domain and the browser, might also trip it up.

Saris 10 months ago

When I downloaded it a few months ago and it required an account to even use it, my gut feeling was that I should just stick with Firefox.

qwertox 10 months ago

They don't encrypt the data they send via Firebase?

I mean, even Google suggests doing this with sensitive data.

ARandomerDude 10 months ago

"Arc is the Chrome replacement I’ve been waiting for." [1]

> https://arc.net/

I guess now we know why they frame it that way.

  • kccqzy 10 months ago

    Chrome does not require an account to use. And Chrome by default doesn't send sites you visit to Google, unless you turn on the "make searches and browsing better" feature or the "enhanced safe browsing" feature.

    So the OP is right. Arc's privacy is worse than Chrome.