Comment by arminiusreturns

Comment by arminiusreturns 6 hours ago

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I think privacy violations are a harm in themselves, but you seem to have already dismissed this issue, so I'll move on. How about behavioral manipulation via microtargeting, economic harm via price discrimination, reselling of the data via monetization to unscrupulous aggregators or third parties, general security reduction (data and metadata sets could be used for APT, etc), or the chilling effect of being tracked all the time in this way?

doctorpangloss 5 hours ago

> How about behavioral manipulation via microtargeting...

I don't know. Ads are meant to convince you to buy something. Are they "behavioral manipulation?" Are all ads harmful?

> ...economic harm via price discrimination...

Should all price discrimination be "illegal?" This is interesting because it makes sense for the FTC and for anti-trust regulators to worry about consumer prices. Price discrimination in software services - the thing I know about - helps the average consumer, because it gets richer people to pay more and subsidize the poor.

> reselling of the data via monetization to unscrupulous aggregators or third parties

"Unscrupulous" is doing a lot of work here.

> ...general security reduction...

Gmail and Chrome being free ad subsidized has done a lot more for end user security than anything else. Do you want security to be only for the rich? It really depends how you imagine software works. I don't know what APT stands for.

> chilling effect of being tracked all the time in this way?

Who is chilled?

I guess talk about some specific examples. They would be really interesting.