Comment by bityard

Comment by bityard 12 hours ago

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I am not a recruiter. But my experience, backed up by _plenty_ of anecdata here and on Reddit, is that applying for jobs on LinkedIn and other job listing sites is GIGANTIC waste of time unless you already have a connection in the company you are applying for.

I myself spent the better part of my free time in 2023 scouring LinkedIn for potential jobs. I was careful not to overreach, I only applied to jobs where I was sure I had the skills they were looking for. The whole year, I got ZERO responses. Until I noticed that one of the companies I was applying for looked familiar. A few minutes of digging revealed that an old co-worker of mine had moved to that company a few months prior. I called him up, we chatted about the company, he agreed to refer me. Long story short, I got the job.

If you are serious about finding a job, you HAVE to rely on your network. It's how I have landed 100% of my civilian jobs over the past 20-something years. If you don't have a network, the second best time to plant a tree is now.

(I suppose you could also work with an independent recruiter, but a lot of companies won't work with them because they charge the hiring company a fee. I don't have any experience with recruiters.)

dakiol 12 hours ago

> that applying for jobs on LinkedIn and other job listing sites is GIGANTIC waste of time unless you already have a connection in the company you are applying for.

In my experience, that's not my case. I found my last 2 jobs by applying to a post in linkedin... but I also contacted the recruiter that posted the job ad via DM. In my whole career (+10 years) I've never relied on my "network" to get a job (mainly because I don't have one).

commandlinefan 7 hours ago

> rely on your network

This has been conventional wisdom for my entire (half century now) life, but every job I've been referred into has ended up being a nightmare. The best jobs I've ever gotten were the "cold approach" ones... hopefully those aren't going away forever.

  • anonzzzies 3 hours ago

    I (also half a century life now) have always relied on my network for work, mainly because almost no interview time wasting (interviews are short and 'with the boss', no homework or other nonsense), higher wages and work from home. My first network were my classmates; some fathers worked in positions that were able to get me in; grew from there.

DonsDiscountGas 2 hours ago

Most jobs I've had, I got by cold applying to a website. In a few cases recruiters reached out to me by email/LinkedIn (this is also fairly unreliable). The approach you're describing is definitely higher yield and you absolutely should cultivate and use a network, but all is not lost without a referral.

In answer to the overall question, I think most places leave a job posting up for a few days/week at least just as standard practice. Within that window I don't think it matters.

MarkMarine 3 hours ago

One thing I found interesting is people saying DM me for a req on Blind. Might be a side door around the network barrier to entry.

HeyLaughingBoy 8 hours ago

A better approach is probably to figure out what recruiter the company is using and contact them directly, indicating that you're looking for a job.

Even if they can't get you in there, they can link you up with other openings they have available.

sirspacey 11 hours ago

I’ve worked in recruiting and with countless career coaches.

This is the best advice for anyone looking for a job. Thanks for sharing.

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