Comment by peutetre

Comment by peutetre 2 days ago

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> I'd seen some rumors that Tesla has been trying to slow down onboarding of other automakers to their charging network

It's more simple. The delays have been because Musk threw a tantrum and fired the whole supercharging team:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/inside...

> I still struggle to see how this ends up favorable for Tesla in the long run

Standardization gives Teslas more access to more chargers. It will also drive up utilization of Tesla's charging network because more cars will use more of Tesla's chargers more of the time.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/28/22596337/tesla-supercharg...

Tesla's chargers have been open to all brands for a long time in Europe. Here's a Kia charging on a V4 charger with no app and no Tesla account just as Nature intended:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yflZN0dLT8s

Tesla is just one charge point operator among many in Europe. Tesla's chargers are behind the state of the art. They still don't work well for 800 volt cars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEJ2KtzMeh8

The Cybertruck is an 800 volt platform and charges faster on Electrify America than on Tesla's own chargers:

https://x.com/itskyleconner/status/1775014705222070331

EV charging standardization in Europe has driven investment in and deployment of charging infrastructure. The US has 193,000 public AC and DC charge points:

https://www.carscoops.com/2024/09/americas-ev-charging-infra...

Europe has over 900,000:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41466853

rootusrootus a day ago

Europe still hasn’t solved the need-another-app-for-every-charger problem.

Probably more effective than standardization is Europe’s love of pigovian taxes on gasoline.