Comment by umanwizard

Comment by umanwizard 2 days ago

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I didn't have any point other than pointing out that your claims were incorrect.

Separately, I do think it's funny when people try to justify Israel's actions by reference to international laws or norms, as if Israel cares. They would still have done this even if they were the only country in the world that considered Hezbollah a terrorist organization.

Just like they're (practically) the only country in the world that considers the Golan Heights or East Jerusalem to be legitimately part of their territory, their occupation of the West Bank to be legal, their permanent air and sea blockade of the Gaza Strip to be legal, and so on. They don't appear to care about international norms at all.

dijit 2 days ago

It's harder to hold them to account when their combatants aren't held to similar standards.

It's a very solid defense to say "well, if we're being attacked by a non-military force that breaks the rules, then what choice do we have".

If they were being attacked by a military force that followed the Geneva conventions it would be easier to drum up anti-Israel support internationally for an intervention.

So, sorry to say it; but it's a fair criticism to say that one side is even more flagrant of the rules: why should Israel even bother trying to abide them?

  • umanwizard 2 days ago

    Remind me, what actions by their enemy combatants force Israel to allow civilian Jewish-only settlements in the West Bank?

    • dijit 2 days ago

      None, that's an easy condemn act.

      Here I am to condemn it, I have even written to my MEP regarding that topic.

      • umanwizard 2 days ago

        I wasn't asking you to condemn it, I was using it as an example of my claim that Israel doesn't care about international law or norms, even in cases where you can't possibly use "but our enemy violates them too" as a justification.

        • dijit 2 days ago

          It doesn't matter if they care or not truthfully, because international relations are supposed to hold them to account.

          Thats why we sanction Russia and Iran.

          Israel needs to be friendly with the west because it is surrounded by hostile nations. But those nations are making things harder for the rest of the world to intervene.