Comment by GordonS

Comment by GordonS 2 days ago

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> Hamas is a fundamentalist group

You've offered no evidence to support this repeated claim, and haven't refuted the evidence to the contrary.

> your arguments seem obsessive and misdirected

Not obsessive, just consistent; I could just as well call you obsessive for your repeated excuses of Israel's destruction of Gaza and their murder, starvation, torture and rape of Palestinians.

You have a very Israeli view on history, and it's obvious neither of us are going to change our standpoint, so I bid you adieu.

raxxorraxor 2 days ago

How much their charta still is relevant today is in question, but they have direct calls to kill Jews in there. They adapted that from al-Husseini, which stated it exactly like that. That was before the founding of Israel btw.

I don't think I want to indulge in proving Hamas to be an extremist organization any further.

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  • aguaviva 2 days ago

    How much their charta still is relevant today is in question, but they have direct calls to kill Jews in there.

    Not the 2008 charter. The most anyone can point to is the passage that supposedly calls for the "annihilation" of Israel, but that's very clearly a mistranslation. (The actual phrasing predicts Israel will be "invalidated" by Islam, a lot more like Khrushchev's "We will leave you in the dust").

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  • GordonS 2 days ago

    More lies, and straight out of the Hasbara playbook at that! From the Hamas charter:

    "Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity."[0]

    [0] https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full

    I don't think I want to indulge in proving Israel to be an murderous, colonial, terrorist, apartheid regime any further.

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