lm28469 2 days ago

You're arguing in such bad faith...

With your analogy it would be like emptying the mag in the general direction of the car of the target, praying the target actually is in the car and praying there is no one else anywhere close to him.

  • dijit 2 days ago

    Please help me understand then, because from what I can understand about the facts here:

    1) It was delivered into the pockets of Senior Leadership of Hezbollah, with an incentive for those pagers not to be distributed elsewhere.

    2) The explosive yield was very small, of an estimated 3000 pagers; 12 fatalities were recorded, making the death rate about 0.4%. One of which was a child, a relative of a Hezbollah leader. (this is an unjustifiable tragedy, but the only recorded civilian fatality).

    3) There has never been, in the history of all warfare, such a surgically precise attack with such a low casualty rate of the civilian population - considering the attack happened at a singular time where it was not possible to get all of the members away from the civilian population at all.

    I'm not sure I understand your reasoning, it's not indiscriminate if it's very targeted and very localised.

    • lawlessone 2 days ago

      >3) There has never been, in the history of all warfare, such a surgically precise attack with such a low casualty rate of the civilian population

      How do you know this ?

      That sounds like a canned talking point. Up there with "Most moral army ever".

      • dijit 2 days ago

        Well, I'm in awe to be perfectly honest with you.

        It's like something in a James Bond movie, or a cheesy riff on the genre like Kingsman.

        You might not want to acknowledge it, but this is definitely a new era of warfare, and one that hopefully has benefits for everyone - reducing the reliance on global supply chains that harm the environment because labour is cheaper elsewhere. (it's a very thin silver lining, let me have it).

    • lm28469 a day ago

      > Please help me understand then

      Bro, it's the text book definition of a war crime, that's it, like it or not.

      https://disarmament.unoda.org/ccw-amended-protocol-ii/

      > Article 6 - Prohibition on the use of certain booby-traps

      1. ...it is prohibited in all circumstances to use: (a) any booby-trap in the form of an apparently harmless portable object which is specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material and to detonate

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime

      > A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by combatants in action, such as ... deception by perfidy, ...

      > There has never been, in the history of all warfare, such a surgically precise attack with such a low casualty rate of the civilian population -

      Go on r/combatfootage and witness hundreds of bombs dropped on 100% military targets with no civilian soul in a 10km radius... are you for real ?