Comment by kergonath

Comment by kergonath 2 days ago

That is a completely warped and incorrect view. There is no political will to do so. I’ve never even seen it suggested even by the cringiest parties in any country in which I have lived. Besides, the simple fact that North Korea and Eritrea have comparable policies, and only them, is a strong indication that this idea is completely wrong. Neither has any kind of international clout to enforce this, and yet they have it for a reason.

Assuming that everyone else would do just like the US if they could get away with it is pure projection. Yes, it’s how the US work. No, it is not normal or even common.

dustincoates 2 days ago

> There is no political will to do so. I’ve never even seen it suggested even by the cringiest parties in any country in which I have lived.

No, you've just got MPs proposing to strip "tax exiles" of their citizenship and pointing to the US system at the same time: https://www.sudouest.fr/politique/depardieu-et-les-exiles-fi...

If you phrase it as "taxing expats" then, sure, no other country is proposing it. If you phrase it as "making sure the rich don't skip out on their taxes by moving to a low tax country" then it's going to be a lot more popular.

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kergonath 2 days ago

You realise that these things are completely different, right?
Stripping people from their citizenship as a punition for a crime has nothing to do with taxing people who renounce their citizenship. The only thing they have in common is that citizenship and taxes are involved. As an aside, because you mention France, there would be significant constitutional challenges to do this for something that is not high treason. It is not going to happen in the near future. The far right barks often, but when push comes to shove their only way to win votes is to soften their rhetoric and there is no support for this so they are not going to die on this hill.
> If you phrase it as "taxing expats" then, sure, no other country is proposing it.
That was the whole premise of the discussion, though.
> If you phrase it as "making sure the rich don't skip out on their taxes by moving to a low tax country" then it's going to be a lot more popular.
That's already being done. There is political will for that (though not from the fringe parties who'd be the most likely to go after expats, including the barking far right). It does not require sending a bill to people renouncing their citizenship, or taxing non-resident citizens.

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