omegabravo 2 days ago

how is this measured? Because if it's by total vessels it's a poor comparison. If it's by total aircraft carrier, it's also a poor comparison.

Basically measuring this is difficult, but this is contrary to my only knowledge of this which was a Wendover video (that was an enjoyable watch), but I wouldn't hold in the highest standard.

dukeyukey 2 days ago

> China has the largest navy in the world.

China has the most ships.

Most of those ships are tiny.

By tonnage, the US comes _way_ out on top.

  • FooBarBizBazz 2 days ago

    Before adding up ship tonnage, we should subtract one US carrier for every, I dunno, two ASBMs possessed by the PRC, and if (lol, I mean when) we get to zero, move on to, say, the Arleigh Burke class.

    I guess we can give the US some bonus points here for each SM-6 they have, but pretty sure those'll run out in a week too.

    On the "plus" side, China is food-insecure, so the US can cause millions of civilian deaths via famine. So it can/would still win, just via genocide. It would take a decade though, and require a strong campaign by the media to maintain domestic support.

    Actually, no, I'm overstating things. The strategy would not be so much to kill so many people, as to "make the economy scream" (as in South and Central America), so as to hopefully bring about regime change. The net result might actually be an increase in immigration from China to the US (to the extent that people are able to make that migration). In the long run that'd be a net win for the US, actually.

    Indeed, you could say that the first shots of that campaign have already happened. Look at Chinese youth unemployment.

edm0nd 2 days ago

America innovates. China replicates.

China and the US have been at war for decades now. Both an economic war and cyber war. Chinese nation-state hackers have hacked into tons of Fortune 500, Aerospace and defense companies, and tech companies to steal R&D from them. They take this R&D and use it for themselves but additionally, they also give it to private industry to use for themselves as well. China plays the long con game. Whatever it takes to make China the number one super power country eventually.