danbruc 10 months ago

Let's mention both sides, Israel wants the State of Palestine gone.

  • raxxorraxor 10 months ago

    I would dispute that but also don't see the relevance to the conflict with Hezbollah.

    • danbruc 10 months ago

      This is all one conflict, it does not make sense to treat this as an isolated conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. And it is dishonest [1] to portray the conflict as Israel resisting various groups that want Israel removed from the map and not mention that the Israel similarly wants Palestine removed from the map. And I am not sure how one can dispute this as the Israelis themselves say it. When the State of Israel was established, Ben-Gurion was hoping that Israel will eventually encompass all of Mandatory Palestine and today Netanyahu says in no uncertain terms that there is no room for an independent Palestinian state. And the actions in between do not paint a different picture either, whether it is the construction of settlements to further fracture the land or to support of Hamas in order to weaken the PLO.

      [1] This is not necessarily an accusation of the commenter I replied to, maybe they just deemed it unnecessary to mention. I think it is worth mentioning to not create a skewed image for people unfamiliar with the conflict, that is why I wrote my comment. However reading it again I have to admit that the wording is far from perfect.

  • Beefin 10 months ago

    you understand Hezbollah and Hamas are different right? Lebanon is not Palestine and has no interest in Palestine. They are an Iranian proxy. Shows how little you know about the situation before sharing your slanderous views as fact.

    • danbruc 10 months ago

      Israel invaded Lebanon to fight the PLO and Hezbollah was founded to fight back. They are absolutely part of the wider conflict. And if you read my comment again, you will find that I said none of the things you mentioned.

      • sim7c00 10 months ago

        you are right dan. its nice to see some info here which is more inline with the reality that syria, lebanon, jordan etc. are all within this wider conflict. there is a lot of history people miss and without that contex its too easy to become onesided or draw incomplete conclusions. i dont say one or the other side is right, but there is a lot more than oktober 7 and 'terrorism' involved here. I am very worried how this will impact the region, but also perceptions towards the region from outsiders lacking this context.

t0lo 10 months ago

hasbara out in force on hn today