Comment by bboygravity

Comment by bboygravity 2 months ago

7 replies

Yes. The market can be THAT wrong, not just wrong but also corrupt and broken (on purpose).

Hint: regulatory crisis, Suzanne Trimbath, failure to deliver shares, naked shorting, Tesla shortsqueeze, VW shortsqueeze, UBS's and Swiss gov's 50 year secret, etc.

kortilla 2 months ago

You’re kinda all over the place with your “hints”. Naked shorting and failure to deliver shares have zero relationship to setting a bid price people are willing to buy at.

Shortsqueezes are cases of driving prices up because shares are hard to get and shorts need to cover. Again, not related to the best offer being too low.

Secrets are also dumb examples because that’s hidden information.

What we’re talking about here is the valuation with all of the public information available now. Nobody of any relevant market size seems to agree that it should be $9/share.

  • bboygravity a month ago

    There is no "setting a bid price" when your order doesn't hit a lit market (hint: it doesn't, it gets routed straight to dark markets).

  • IG_Semmelweiss 2 months ago

    I'm willing to grant some leeway on a shortsqueeze.

    If one is willing to grant that the stock "price" for a liquid listing, is the price for a stock at any given time, then you could argue the markets are "wrong" insofar that the price quoted in the open market, is absolutely not the correct price - regardless of the excuse of a short squeeze.

    • kortilla 2 months ago

      They are not the same because without available shares to short its very easy to recognize there is stuff overpriced in the market and the open market can’t do anything about it because the sellers are limited and they control the ask.

      This is absolutely not true of a price that’s “too low”. Anyone, including you, can go hit those asking prices and start to load up. There is also capped downsize risk (as opposed to uncontrolled risk in a short).

      This is all to say that it’s possible that company could be worth $9-10/share, but based on all of the information publicly available today, there are effectively tens of thousands of people each swinging billions in capital than are parking it in stuff providing 5% return rather than the 20000% you suggest is there.

      So this tells me that you are just much more hopeful for the future of the company than the current financial projections and prospects support.

vkou 2 months ago

That's word salad randomly picked from the small book of 'scary words from finance', but you haven't explained what the actual problem is.

OrigamiPastrami 2 months ago

You actually think people are familiar with most, if any, of your hints? You mention Susanne Trimbath like most people have any idea who she is. If you construct an argument instead of throwing out a buzzword salad of ideas, people are more likely to listen to you.