Comment by whynotminot
Comment by whynotminot 3 days ago
The SE has always used the latest chip.
No chance in hell Apple releases any new phones — even SEs — that can’t do Apple Intelligence.
Comment by whynotminot 3 days ago
The SE has always used the latest chip.
No chance in hell Apple releases any new phones — even SEs — that can’t do Apple Intelligence.
Going by past practices and current rumors, I would expect an iPhone 14 body and display (FaceID, OLED, and no large bezels) with the current flagship model SOC and a single recent gen camera module.
It will be interesting to see how much they bump up the RAM for Apple Intelligence.
New SE models tend to launch in March or April.
Yeah, MacRumors thinks a new iPhone SE is due sometime soon, based mostly on how long it's been since the last model released: https://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#iPhone_SE
Maybe, perhaps. Idk I don’t work at Apple.
I’m just telling you that if it follows past SE pattern it’ll be an A18. And they won’t skimp on the RAM because Apple Intelligence is clearly going to be rolled out across their entire product line.
2 + 2 = A18 with 8GB of RAM
Apple Intelligence is a bunch of new tech they haven't really released yet. In typical Apple fashion, they start slow, and will improve it year over year.
Apple rarely backports new tech to older devices. It probably could run on the older chips, but it doesn't look like Apple isn't going for the widest possible rollout. They are launching it for the newest chips only, and are not wasting time porting it to old chips, when they don't even know yet how it's going to scale. So right now they are focussing on English speaking markets and newest devices only.
They are skating to where the puck is going to be, and in a few years no-one will care if their tech runs on the A16 or not. Right now they are focussing on getting this thing launched, and backward compatibility would only slow them down.
And its a selling point to get people to buy new iPhones, so it's win/win for Apple.
While I can think of a few examples where they have done back ports given time (but not at launch). I still very much see this the same way as you do for Apple Intelligence. Firstly because they're unlikely to announce it for older phones unless they can get every model working well. Secondly because I notice they've been careful about which of the new AI upgrades are classified as Apple Intelligence, versus those which have been packaged into iOS 18 without fanfare.
I'll give an example:
The iOS 18 photos app, without "Apple Intelligence", still has an improved search function. This is driven of course by a new AI model that tags images with more detail and fidelity than earlier iterations.
However "Apple Intelligence" also features further upgrades to photo searching where a user can request images with highly specific details, expressions or interactions. The example they give is "Katie with stickers on her face", and beta testers have shown examples which demonstrate that other than just tagging individual objects, those items themselves are described and searchable. (E.g. The difference is like between being able to search for photos with a "dress", versus "a red dress", "a wedding dress", <person> "wearing polka dot dress", etc.)
It's unlikely to be able privacy laws, but rather DMA / competition laws.
Apple Intelligence requires deep access to user data, systems apps, etc to make it useful.
Under the DMA, Apple would be required to also offer similar functionality to competitors (e.g. Google).
Ironically the DMA is telling Apple to reduce privacy to make Apple Intelligence work in the EU, it’s just a populist political attempt at regulating a market.
No sane person actually thinks Apple isn’t private enough for EU standards, they’re just not being allowed to compete because they aren’t allowing anyone else access to local user context, which would be a privacy nightmare if done incorrectly.
Isn't the bulk of Apple Intelligence processing on-device? You want to have powerful chipsets for local, more privacy-friendly processing.
I agree that Apple being stubborn is part of this, but also the point of the DMA / antitrust in general is that large companies that control their own markets can't do some of the same things that less influential companies in the same space can do.
Apple Intelligence is a set of features for a platform (iOS) which the EU has determined to be a Gatekeeper platform which comes with special restrictions and oversight.
There's a regulatory difference between that and just releasing an LLM accessible via the web or an app download.
Now that I'm thinking about buying a new phone, maybe it's worth waiting for the SE to come out