Comment by tombert

Comment by tombert 3 days ago

14 replies

Tangential, but a pet project I've been working on has been doing exactly that! Looking at US federal tax laws and using constraints solves to find optimal paths to the lowest taxes.

I don't really do anything besides play with it, my taxes are very simple and boring, but it's been a fun project to play around with.

chris_wot 3 days ago

Yeah, that is tax minimization, not tax avoidance. There's a big difference.

  • jdminhbg 3 days ago

    Very big! Minimization is when I do it, avoidance is when Apple does it.

    • AmericanChopper 2 days ago

      According to this article, it’s actually evasion when Apple does it!

      • brookst 2 days ago

        The great thing is nobody knows the difference between minimization and avoidance unit after years of very expensive litigation.

  • NoboruWataya 2 days ago

    How? There's a big difference between avoidance and evasion, but avoidance and minimization mean pretty much the same thing in this context.

    • sroussey 2 days ago

      I think of minimization as doing things like taking deductions, and avoidance as creating confusing structures of new entities in order to take advantage of gray areas and deciding that the cost of getting caught is not material.

  • tombert 3 days ago

    Yeah, that's fair enough; outside of keeping as much money as I can in ETFs and index funds, my tax strategies are pretty much non-existent since I don't have enough money for it make a huge difference.

    • quesera 3 days ago

      If there are any novel or situation-specific conclusions drawn, that sounds like an easy sell to CPAs and independent tax preparers. Maybe even individual tax optimizers.

      My naive assumption is that sophisticated analysis will return the same few well-known recommendations almost all the time -- the taxation variant of eating properly, sleeping regularly, and getting appropriate exercise.

      • tombert 13 hours ago

        Certainly for anything I actually do, I've not found anything that is better than something like TurboTax gives me.

        The scope of what I'm working on is trying to build strategies for holding and selling stock as well in order to minimize taxes. I've only ever used it on paper trades.