Comment by dotancohen

Comment by dotancohen 3 days ago

14 replies

Hezbollah has been escalating their armed attacks against Israel for almost an entire year, parallel with the war in Gaza. Every day tens of rockets hit Israel, almost the entire north of Israel is evacuated of civilians.

I realize that this is not widely known, attacks against Israel receive far less attention in the news than do Israeli retaliations.

ceejayoz 3 days ago

As tends to be the case with this sort of complaint, it absolutely makes the news.

Quick sampling of examples:

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240908-hezbollah-f...

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/7/4/hezbollah-fires-reta...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cw9y7wqn8j5o

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-hezbollah-hamas-ro...

It doesn't make a big splash in the news because it tends to be severely ineffectual, but it has been pretty widely and continuously covered.

  • dotancohen 3 days ago

    Yes, there are blurbs about it if you know where to look and are already familiar with the situation. But a small blurb once about Israel being attacked is drowned out by the literally thousands of articles about Israeli actions, which mention time and again every small detail or infringement.

    • kelnos 3 days ago

      I don't agree; I think you're pushing some vague nonsense media conspiracy here. I haven't been following the war that closely, but I hear about Hezbollah attacks fairly regularly. I'm very critical of Israel right now, but it's not even remotely unknown that they're facing attacks from multiple fronts.

ericmcer 3 days ago

The "news" doesn't even seem to exist anymore. News providers have adapted to the readers only wanting hear their own views supported.

Not only are there specific providers for specific worldviews, but major providers seem to spit out articles catering to every viewpoint. You can find probably find multiple pro Israel and anti Israel articles coming from a single news source on a single day.

So, I dunno maybe we need some kind of cumulative news app to get any kind of meaningful idea of how things are actually leaning. Like an AI summarizing sentiments of the 20,000 articles on Israel in the last week to determine if the news is slanted.

  • BytesAndGears 2 days ago

    I think you’re basically describing ground.news

    They advertise pretty heavily, and I’ma bit skeptical of their ability to make money. but it basically uses AI to summarize stories, and it groups stories from many media outlets, categorizes their bias, and shows the slant of the topic overall.

insane_dreamer 3 days ago

> attacks against Israel receive far less attention in the news than do Israeli retaliations.

this is false

the rockets in northern Israel have been going on for years (as are rocket attacks into Lebanon), so just not much news anymore

wkat4242 3 days ago

> attacks against Israel receive far less attention in the news than do Israeli retaliations.

I think retaliations are pretty fruitless anyway. Both sides have been lobbing missiles at each other for decades. This eye for an eye thing keeps going even though both sides have run out of eyes a long time ago.

Maybe talking might be an idea? Just saying...

  • megaman821 3 days ago

    Both sides are lobbing missiles at civilians? And responding to an attack on your civilians is fruitless? Maybe evaluate what you are saying.

    • wkat4242 3 days ago

      Yes. Killing more of theirs in response to an attack on yours is fruitless. It just perpetuates the situation. And also, every time you kill one civilian there, their kids become terrorists for life (or at least have a good chance to). Hitting military targets is ok, but just lobbing a few missiles that way in retaliation because they fired some on you last week is really not going to help in any way. It only perpetuates the death and destruction.

      Netanyahu seems to be very much against negotiations and keeps blowing the situation up because he doesn't want to 'look weak'. But this does nothing to actually help the Israeli people get safer. The only way they can actually be safe is to sit down and make peace. And of course not to keep taking more and more territory as Israel has been doing (and was even condemned by the UN).

      Seriously, this shit has been going on since the founding of Israel. If they keep it up they will never feel safe. Neither side will ever be fully bombed into submission. Remember both Russia and the US tried that in Afghanistan, it didn't work there and it won't work here. All it does is keep the military industrial complex fed and wrecking lives in the process.

      Someone has to take the first step and stop retaliating. And make some agreements which are fair to both parties. Then they can both build up a society and have less reason to upset things because they have a thriving society to lose.

      I'm not defending Hamas nor Hezbollah. But this has to stop and 'responding' or 'retaliating' isn't going to help.

      • dotancohen 3 days ago

        Only the Gazans charge that Israel kills civilians. The Lebanese understand exactly that Israeli targets Hezbollah. Read any Lebanese newspaper - they blame Hezbollah.

        • ceejayoz 2 days ago

          > Only the Gazans charge that Israel kills civilians.

          Israel widely acknowledges that they kill civilians - including Israeli hostages emerging from captivity (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israeli-military-says-it-...).

          There's disagreement on how carefully they try to avoid doing it, but even their closest geopolitical ally the US has urged them to do more to prevent civilian casualties.

    • ceejayoz 3 days ago

      > Both sides are lobbing missiles at civilians?

      Well, one's hitting civilians with missiles, the other's hitting them with rockets.