Comment by vlovich123

Comment by vlovich123 3 days ago

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The concept of legitimate targets is from the Geneva convention.

> A fundamental premise of the Geneva Conventions has been that to earn the right to protection as military fighters, soldiers must distinguish themselves from civilians by wearing uniforms and carrying their weapons openly

Hezbollah fighters clearly aren’t doing this and this is whether the fundamental argument around how Israel behaves comes from - what is a legitimate target and rules of engagement when the fighting force blends itself into the general populace? For all the criticism, Israel by some accounts does seem to do better than the US in similar circumstances when they were in Iraq and Afghanistan in terms of protecting civilian populations. And for all their criticism (some well deserved some not) they could certainly be even more indiscriminate in their targeting.

rany_ 3 days ago

> Hezbollah fighters clearly aren’t doing this

What do you mean? I am not in any way supporting Hezbollah but their soldiers are definitely "wearing uniforms and carrying their weapons openly." Hamas and Hezbollah are not the same. Hamas is more decentralized though so that doesn't happen as often in that case. Hezbollah soldiers are also salaried and more properly equipped by Iran/Syria.

The biggest difference between Hezbollah and Hamas is that in Hezbollah's case, their soldiers are more motivated by money rather than ideology. They treat it more like a "professional" job, work for promotions, and dress accordingly. It's a significantly more top-down structure too.

  • hackeraccount 2 days ago

    What's the country of Hezbollah? There's clearly not one. It's Lebanon. Hezbollah is a group inside a State not a State.

    There are a bunch of very good reasons why groups doing that are outside the law.

  • vlovich123 3 days ago

    Hezbollah has been accused of employing similar tactics of hiding among civilian populations and hiding military equipment in civilian buildings which makes sense both given that Iran is backing both these groups and from a strategic view if you’re fighting a significantly more advanced enemy.

    As for ideology vs money, it’s hard to distinguish which motivates them more va Hamas given these movements started from seed money and personnel from the Iranian revolutionary guard.

    But certainly hezbollah started indiscriminately shelling Israeli civilian targets and Israel is responding by targeting military personnel and infrastructure. It’s up to the Lebanese government to control Hezbollah (which they cant) and Hezbollah is responsible for collateral civilian casualties that stem from attacking them

    https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rjhi11ibu0

    https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/03/21/idf-hezbollah-stores...