Comment by onlyrealcuzzo

Comment by onlyrealcuzzo 3 days ago

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> 1. The beepers were compromised and have been for a long time.

Where did you see this? Sources are saying that Hezbollah recently upgraded their pagers with the American University of Beirut on August 29:

https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1836082218805891360

Why would Israel have the ability to wipe out a good chunk of Hezbollah for years and just sat on it until now?

They are claiming 2750 injuries:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/17/dozens-of-hezbollah...

anonu 3 days ago

> Hezbollah recently upgraded their pagers with the American University of Beirut

Please do not conflate Hezbollah and AUB.

The claim is that AUB medical school pagers were replaced a week or so ago. This is either pure coincidence, false or fake news to imply that AUB has Israeli operatives, or indeed that the pagers used were compromised and that the USA was aware of the impending attack and did not want to harm AUB medical staff - who probably are mostly not connected with Hezbollah.

Further reading: https://x.com/AUBMC_Official/status/1836086847153320148

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elteto 3 days ago

I wasn't thinking years, but months but I didn't know about the recent upgrade. At any rate, if the pagers allowed any data exfiltration they have been collecting that data since whenever the last upgrade was.

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  • adrian_b 3 days ago

    The reason for using pagers instead of phones is that they are receivers only, they do not transmit, therefore they cannot be localized.

    So no data exfiltration was possible using the pagers. The only purpose of the modified pagers was to maim or kill their possessors, by detonating all of them simultaneously.

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    • foundart 3 days ago

      Some kinds of receivers can be localized because they convert input frequencies to a standard internal frequency for more convenient processing. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver#Local...

      It's how the TV detectors work in countries, such as the UK, that charge a license fee for TVs.

      Military radios can't use this common technique because of the risk of detection.

      I suspect pagers only receive on 1 or at most a few frequencies. If that's correct, they wouldn't need that technique.

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      • vel0city 3 days ago

        It is still way more difficult to localize a local oscillator (especially one that's trying even slightly to shield itself) than something trying to transmit to a tower a few miles away.

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      • KaiserPro 2 days ago

        We are talking tiny signals here, modern RF frontends don't leak meaningful amounts of RF, otherwise it would knacker batterylife.

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fabioborellini 3 days ago

So they missed incapacitating a hospital, which changed to smart phones. Are you sure it was Mossad?

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