Comment by jajko

Comment by jajko 3 days ago

9 replies

Given history, given adversary, given all facts known thats practically sure. Usually Mosad doesn't say anything so we won't get much more anytime soon.

There will be few movies and documentaries about this for sure once things calm down a bit. I presume they used pagers instead of phones to not be so easily trackable via google/apple software and hardware?

minkles 3 days ago

A pager is passive receiver only. It never transmits. So you can't track it. That allows an operative to get to a secure line or obtain a burner device.

Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

  • spidersenses 3 days ago

    >Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

    This is also true for Hezbollah. They must now distrust their own network, equipment and procurement channels. The reshuffling resulting from the casualties will make the organization less effective, at least temporarily, thus delaying any attack plans and allowing moles to rise through the ranks.

  • the-rc 3 days ago

    That's not been true for well over twenty years.

    http://suntelecom.com/images/st900_large.jpg

    • vel0city 3 days ago

      You might as well be arguing all cell phones are iPhones, because here's a model which is an iPhone. Sure, some are two-way pagers and do transmit, but most aren't.

      Loads of pagers are passive, receive-only devices. There's a reason why there's a common distinction between "pager" and "two-way pager".

    • minkles 3 days ago

      Looks like they were using Gold AL-A25 / Apollo 929 pagers which are 100% passive.

      • Dig1t 3 days ago

        Funny enough the Apollo pagers website appears to be down.

        • noduerme 3 days ago

          What if the company itself was a front? That sounds like Mossad's style of planning, much more so than intercepting shipments or something.

  • bonestamp2 2 days ago

    Until we know the attack vector, I wouldn't say the network is compromised. Perhaps a specific message was used to detonate, that wouldn't require compromising the network. Perhaps there was a separate radio that wasn't using the pager network at all.

  • cdchn 3 days ago

    >Whoever did this just killed that as an information channel as both the devices and the network are now compromised.

    I'm not sure if thats true, they just need to start cracking open their shipments of pagers and looking for explosives.