Comment by eikenberry

Comment by eikenberry 4 days ago

3 replies

There is no way to join w/o having a job at a union shop. I want a union I can join no matter where I work and that can help me find a new job. Why isn't this the model?

johnnyanmac 3 days ago

Unions have their own incentives, and they expand slowly using existing union shops as leverage. Can't really hold much power over any one company if it's 2 people are shop A, 10 and B, and 200 at C. A would just drop them and only hire non-union, while B would make negotiations hard.

  • eikenberry 3 days ago

    The union could flip hiring by making finding good candidates easy for a company by having their members pre-vetted, eliminating the need for vetting interviews completely. Hiring is a huge pain point and addressing it would, IMO, go a long way. And they wouldn't necessarily need to focus on employer negotiations as their members would find job hoping easy due to skipping all the vetting interviewing giving them leverage as individuals.

    • mcmoor 3 days ago

      I feel like union would be much more symphathetic if they do this, and they can coexist with capitalism instead of being hostile activism. But this way they'll just be another corporation, with its pros and cons. Also programmers seems to be uncomfortable with the concept of formal vetting.