Comment by alephnerd

Comment by alephnerd 4 days ago

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> How is that a sustainable corporate culture

Take a look at the hiring market today. Not that many options.

It's scummy and imo represents bad leadership (a lot of the good Amazonians in mid-level management got poached during the pandemic which caused some internal degradation as their replacements were strong but not as experienced with 0-to-1 + ), but there really aren't many other options that can pay Amazon level.

Hybrid (2-3 days in the office) solves most of your communication needs at the leadership level. 5 days is just too much.

+ A lot of the all-star PM and Eng leadership I knew of at AWS were poached during the pandemic to leadership or leadership track positions at plenty of companies (eg. Datadog, Felicis, Google, etc)

yourapostasy 4 days ago

> ...a lot of the good Amazonians in mid-level management got poached...

I hear a lot of complaints of Amazon management going to other companies bringing the Amazon culture with them, and turning off the collaboration, communication and innovation spigot between and even within teams with their imported leadership style. Have others seen this first-hand and seen effective counter-measures they can report upon that deflect that energy towards more positive ends?

eli_gottlieb 4 days ago

Amazon has been Like This since long before the pandemic and the tech downturn. I was told they were Like This when I was finishing undergrad.

  • red-iron-pine 4 days ago

    there were news articles about it in the Seattle Times a decade ago. headlines like "I Used To Cry At My Desk".